Question of the Week: June 25th, 2018.

Do you find rebuttals of attacks you’ve never even seen validating or alienating?

Someone on twitter posted recently about how they don’t like seeing rebuttals of for example ‘aces aren’t queer’ because they never see the criticisms in the first place, and I’ve got to say I agree to some extent.

On some levels I’m glad to know how people outside my bubble see the world, and the kinds of criticisms some ace folk may be experiencing, but really, I selfishly just want to keep living in my sheltered world where I don’t even see those posts.  

I think they are valuable, but I also don’t like sharing them because I feel like I’m shedding the bad viewpoint as well as the good.

Thoughts?

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4 Responses to Question of the Week: June 25th, 2018.

  1. For me, this is a real issue on Twitter. At the start of June, my list of ace tweeters was full of people rebutting anti-ace attacks and even just seeing that became overwhelming and alienating and I ended up not checking that list for a long time. I wish people wouldn’t make their followers (especially ace followers) have to deal with this when they argue with trolls.

  2. Zoe says:

    The age old question, should we bury our heads in the sand and hang out in our safe little echo chamber or deal with the harsher parts of what we find outside? I usually advocate that knowledge is power and knowing what arguments exist and how you might go about refuting them, can be beneficial, but, at the same time, there’s an argument to be made for feeling safe in a space you carved out, which is why tagging is important.
    It’s a balance for me. Some days I have to think more about my mental health and I just need validation that what I’m feeling is real and acceptable and normal. Other days, I think it’s good to know what I might encounter in the world before it hits me. There’s also something validating on good days about seeing someone take on an argument being made against the community because at least someone is fighting the good fight and maybe that will help someone else.
    Either way, tag it.

  3. Talia says:

    I think rebuttals are incredibly important but for my own mental health I personally wouldn’t follow someone who posted a ton of them. We have this issue in the vegan community too where vegans constantly post slaughter house pictures or videos in vegan groups. Like yes I know what the inside of a slaughter house looks like and it bothers me, that’s why I’m already vegan. For me the frustrating part about the vegan example is that I’m seeing content I don’t need to see because I already agree. The audience is completely wrong. There are so few non-vegans in vegan spaces. I wonder if some aces just aren’t thinking about who their audience actually is when they make these rebuttals. Will the people you’re challenging actually see the rebuttal and engage with it or just aces? Maybe they need to post the rebuttals elsewhere. If these rebuttals are actually part of a productive dialogue, awesome, and I’d just do my best to step away from them. However I do understand that not everyone wants to have to step away and shrink where they feel safe when it’s already so small.

  4. Sennkestra says:

    For me, it depends on how the rebuttals are structured.

    I tend to be annoyed by rebuttals that are aimed directly at people who are issuing spurious criticism, as most of those people don’t care about logic or facts and it’s just feeding the trolls. I’m not actually that bothered by the hostility since I get a certain schadenfreude out of internet fights and don’t get stressed easily, but I don’t like the way they ricochet all over and clutter up my entire feed.

    On the other hand, what I do appreciate are summary-style educational rebuttals that are aimed not at the original troll, but at other aces and third party audiences that reasonable explain where the misconception is coming from, why it’s incorrect, and the evidence we have that proves that. (Many of these avoid reblogging the original trolls at all for maximum troll-starving). As a front-line activist and educator, I encounter a lot of these in the wild (often from well meaning people who have no idea how wildly off base they are), so knowing the exact history and having talking points I can draw on when refuting them is actually really useful. Even these, though, are best in small doses.

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